Not a lot is going on
August 7, 2007The Komets might announce a couple signings by the end of the week, but these are likely to be more rookies and role players than stars. It’s starting to get toward crunch time when players who are hoping for spots in AHL training camps will have to make some decisions.
With seven players signed and only three veterans, the Komets have roster spots and money available. General Manager David Franke and coach Al Sims hope to have the team’s goaltending positions figured out next. They continue to talk with Shawn Degagne who hopes to receive a doctor’s clearance later this week after having shoulder surgery early last season. Degagne is already playing and working out, Sims said. “If everything looks good and he is cleared, we’ll look to make the next step,” Sims said. “He’s a real competitor.”
Franke said the Komets also have a few other goaltending options, and it’s unlikely the team will fill one of its seven veteran spots in net.
Sims said he’d like to bring around 30 players to training camp, creating competition for the final five or six spots on the roster.
“The middle of August is usually when guys are looking for American League deals, and then they have to decide what they want to do next,” Sims said. “That’s usually when you get the better players because these are borderline AHL players. You have to make sure you have some money for that time of year so you can get a guy like that.”
The Komets have made offers to dispersal draft picks Justin Chwedoruk, Chaz Johnson, Frank Littlejohn, Mike Sgroi and Mike Kautz, but Brett Pilkington and Sergei Durdin have said they will sign with the ECHL.
“The important thing for me is go get in touch with all the agents and let them know we’re interested if their guys don’t get an AHL deal, an we have money to spend,” Sims said. “If we get some AHL camps to offer as well, we’ll be that much further ahead.”
Sims and Franke said the Komets currently have spots in two AHL camps, with Worcester and Syracuse. Sims said he’s continuing to look for more options.
Franke said recently signed assistant coach Colin Chaulk and captain Guy Dupuis are also pitching in to help recruit players and sell them on Fort Wayne.

August 7, 2007 at 3:04 pm
Do believe that Littlejohn has signed with Elmira and is getting ready to help run thier tryout camp…
August 7, 2007 at 3:31 pm
Thanks for the update, Blake, and welcome back to reality. Glad the inmates didn’t tear down the asylum while you were gone, but it did get a little rough for awhile.
August 7, 2007 at 3:36 pm
Blake was there any mention of Mcwinney? I hope they did not put all of that work in with him last year to see another team reap the benefits. I know that everyone equated his progression to his connection with St Pierre but when it comes down to it, Dan had to go in the net and stop the pucks and for the most part he did that.
Ah Chaz Johnson….grrrr…well maybe class guys like Guy and Colin will crack some sense into the kid.
August 7, 2007 at 3:36 pm
Littlejon has signed with elmira. i was hopng we ould get pilkington.
August 7, 2007 at 4:24 pm
Mike Sgroi would be a good fighter to get.
August 7, 2007 at 4:38 pm
I hope they can get McWhinney back. I don’t think he’s a #1 goaltender quite yet, but give him another year under his belt, he very well could be.
August 7, 2007 at 4:56 pm
Yes, Littlejohn is signed in Elmira…I think they did that to retain his rights…
August 7, 2007 at 5:44 pm
That’s what I think, too. Who knows if Frank and Martinson will get along?
August 7, 2007 at 5:46 pm
Blake, here is an article that I found that Neumie signed with a team.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/ice-hockey/article2841456.ece
August 7, 2007 at 5:47 pm
I was in favour of signing Littlejohn too until I realized that for as long as he has been around even on some decent teams, no team he has gone into the playoffs with has EVER made it out of the first round!
August 7, 2007 at 6:27 pm
Welcome back Blake……
August 7, 2007 at 8:03 pm
Blake,
Welcome Back! I hope your vacation was as enjoyable as mine. (They always go so quickly!!!)
Can you tell us if McWhinney is being considered for one of the goaltending spots? I would like to see him get an opportunity to get some more PT and develop his skills more.
Try to keep cool, this weather is brutal!
August 7, 2007 at 8:26 pm
Welcome back and Happy Birthday.
August 8, 2007 at 12:43 am
McWhinney is in the mix, but I’m not sure how serious.
Had a good vacation, but it’s not my birthday, though I do feel remarkably older being out in this heat. Not sure where that got started.
August 9, 2007 at 12:58 pm
He’s our new guy Travis getting jumped by our buddy Chaz… what a quality guy that Chaz is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3J9I3bM3WM
August 9, 2007 at 1:02 pm
Yeah, but in Johnson’s defense, Granbois did try go to knee to knee and I think that would make anyone upset.
August 9, 2007 at 1:07 pm
but he plain jumped him. hit him from behind.
August 9, 2007 at 1:21 pm
I won’t question that, but Johnson did follow Granbois down the ice trying to get him to go. And had that been a Komets Granbois tried to knee, well I’ll let everyone else answer that one.
August 9, 2007 at 1:23 pm
Think of it this way, in the new and improved IHL, this thing will happen more often because there’s no instigator rule. Johnson wouldn’t even have to have asked for the fight he could have legit jumped Granbois and gotten maybe just a 5.
August 9, 2007 at 1:31 pm
I guess the question would be, is Johnson “coachable”
Where he was before that type of goonery was condoned and encouraged. Sims is old school. Back when he played their certainly were the goon/enforcers running around but the guys he played with like O’reilly, Wensink, Secord etc all stood face to face with the guys they fought. None of the from behind and stick slash stuff that Johnson is known for. So can Johnson change his act to meet the coaches expectations or is he a true loose cannon. There is no doubt he has ability to play but you cannot win when one of your more talented players can’t control himself and winds up in the box anytime someone looks at him wrong. Those kind of guys kill you in the playoffs.
August 9, 2007 at 1:54 pm
That’s a way to look at it, but I go back to the new IHL. Now players don’t have to worry about the “code”. If players fell they were wronged they can exact revenge with limited punishment (as long as the don’t go crazy and I don’t see Johnson as that type of crazy, Big Snake on the other hand???).
August 9, 2007 at 3:14 pm
I’m really looking forward to Travis Granbois being a Komet. I’ve heard a lot of good stuff about him from QC fan’s, if you can stand listening to them. He won’t be another Morency, but he doesn’t back down from anyone, even if he does get his bell rung.
August 9, 2007 at 5:24 pm
Dont count on Chaz johnson playing in Ft wayne….
August 9, 2007 at 9:12 pm
Chaz can stay as far from Fort Wayne as possible.
August 9, 2007 at 9:13 pm
I’m not, I could care less…..would rather see someone that plays the game the right way.
August 9, 2007 at 9:23 pm
For those of you interested, Tony, Blake, and others,
I found this link which shows some of the new NHL uniforms and the Reebok form-fitting design.
http://hockey-blog-in-canada.blogspot.com/search/label/jerseys
A handful of jerseys have been released/leaked so far. Boston looks to be going back somewhat to its old style and the NY Rangers maintained their look. The LA Kings, once again, have no idea what royalty colors should be or what a REAL crown looks like. According to some bloggers on this site, the Florida Panthers and Nashville Predators came up with aprons for uniforms.
The Quad City Flames’ new white uniform is also on there, if anybody really cares about Quad City that is.
August 9, 2007 at 9:38 pm
Enough talk about the skaters! Let’s talk goalies! C’mon Frankes, I don’t want us to play empty-net all year!…
August 9, 2007 at 9:54 pm
Reiter should fix that problem for you.
August 10, 2007 at 9:55 am
I just saw a picture of Massie and he’s going to play in the LAHN this coming season.
August 10, 2007 at 11:34 am
Reiter would fix that problem IF THEY ANNOUNCE IT!!!…
August 10, 2007 at 11:48 am
Since I haven’t seen his name come up much this off season, I doubt Reiter is in the mix. Sims seems pretty gung-ho on Degagne.
August 10, 2007 at 12:07 pm
How do you say his name? Like Eric GAGNE, or Gag-ne? Or neither? Last I heard of Kevin Reiter, he was the radio broadcaster for the Florida Everblades in the playoffs. Probably not the same one though. Oh well, pish-posh. I don’t care who the man between the pipes is, Sims will make sure he’s a goodie…
August 10, 2007 at 12:14 pm
I would say like Eric Gagne, or Simon Gagne from the Flyers to stick with the hockey theme, although Eric is Canadian.
August 10, 2007 at 1:50 pm
I just find it amazing that now players have all these “options”available to them to sign with whoever they want. A few months ago everyone (including Blake) was talking about how players would flock to sign in the new IHL because their options would be limited, because there would be fewer teams in minor league hockey. Anyone else want to offer any other suggestions now about why this is happening? Could it be that we are the last option for players such as Chewdoruk and Pilkington and many others who have turned down Fort Wayne this summer?
August 10, 2007 at 5:45 pm
Who’s the 100 pt stud the Frankes had to lunch Thursday ? It’s signed, sealed and yet to be delivered to Komet fans.
August 10, 2007 at 6:01 pm
Any hints?
August 10, 2007 at 6:40 pm
chris richards
August 10, 2007 at 8:02 pm
Gary Coleman?
August 11, 2007 at 12:01 pm
Tony Euro?
August 11, 2007 at 12:04 pm
Sidney Crosby!
August 11, 2007 at 2:29 pm
Whi is the 6-9 guy that Chase was talking about on wowo Friday???
August 11, 2007 at 2:30 pm
Make that who is…..sorry
August 11, 2007 at 6:33 pm
Ricko, Ricko, Ricko, your man crush on me is flattering even if it is a little creepy.
August 11, 2007 at 6:37 pm
Tom,
players are afraid to sign because their agents are filling their heads with junk. I talked to someone fresh out of juniors a few weeks back and he said his agent told him that the IHL might fold before the first season finishes. Of course that is nonsense but when you hear stuff like that it is going to scare some people. PERHAPS, and I say perhaps, the quality of play may not be as good the first season as alot of young “second tier” type players fill out the rosters but once the league survives this year and the landscape of minor league hockey evolves over the next couple of years you will find that there will be more than enough quality AA players to fill out the IHL rosters.
August 11, 2007 at 9:59 pm
tim, the guy chase was talking about was lane manson but i dont know if thats the right guy or not. he seems to fit the bill.. anybody got ideas on who the 100pt guy is or is you know who just starting a rumor?? and believe me, i dont think we need reiter. hes a slacker!
August 12, 2007 at 1:22 am
Will they announce when single game tickets go on sale before they actually go on sale?
August 12, 2007 at 7:17 pm
I say let’s bring this DeGagne in and see what the kid can do. If he’s a flop we have McWhinney to fall back on if need be. Imagine a D line of Manson and Henley. WOW!!!
August 12, 2007 at 8:17 pm
Tony,
I understand what you are saying, but the Frankes should have seen all this coming. They’ve been around for a long time. They should be held accountable for giving us “A” hockey this year. What you are saying essentially to Fort Wayne fans is to “put up” with the next few years and then we will get “AA” hockey back in Fort Wayne. We deserve more than this. Come on, you can’t blame the agents for looking out for themselves and their clients.
August 12, 2007 at 8:35 pm
I doubt that having guys like Chaulk, Robin Bouchard, Guy Dupuis, Tyler Willis, etc. is going to make the IHL fall into the “A” category. This league will be fine. As long as there are top-tier “AA” type players in the IHL and the teams are financially able to pay the players, then this league will be fine. No one needs to panic. It is normal to have anywhere from 6-10 guys signed at this point. I would venture to say they have others on board that they are not announcing right away as they are trying to spread the news out a bit so that the Komets stay in the headlines, on the blogs, on the news, and on our minds. Why tell us everything all at once.
The one thing that bothers me is…why haven’t the brass in the IHL solved the issues such as playoffs, trophies, further rules, records, etc. etc. etc.? Seems to me they have lots of loose-ends out there before we get to training camps.
August 13, 2007 at 12:00 am
Tom, I do not think this will be an A league. I think what you will see are a bunch of guys you have never heard of playing this first season, guys who have never played together before. That in itself might bring the quality of play down a bit until the teams and players get to know each other. This is something new to Komets fans because it is the first time that the team is joining a league at a time it is pretty much being built from scratch. But keep in mind that these same kinds of fears happened when the Komets joined the UHL. Everyone complained about the drop to a lower level league but once you got to know the characters and who the villains and heroes were, it was just like old times. The entire hockey landscape is going to be different by the end of this decade. The Komets will have a chance to go back to AAA hockey when the time is right. As a fan you of course have the right to stay away until then. Nobody can force you to buy tickets and your life will continue whether you go to hockey games or not. I do not think the Frankes have to be accountable for anything. They have kept hockey going with a succesful record for years and I believe that will continue. They are doing the smart thing which is to wait for the doors to open up for them rather than trying to squeeze through those same doors now. There will be at LEAST 2 AAA leagues in the next few years. The AHL is not the place for the Komets because that will be an eastern league. Fans need to understand there is alot more going on in the hockey world than meets the eye.
The alternative to all of this of course if for the Komets to fold. Would that be a better choice?
August 13, 2007 at 10:38 am
tony…are you my long lost brother? took the words right out of my mouth, except i wouldnt have used so many.!!! lol
August 13, 2007 at 11:32 am
Sorry LOL that late at night it takes me longer to get where I am going.
August 13, 2007 at 1:06 pm
For once, I agree with Tony… The Komets will be playing at the AAA level by 2010, whether the IHL becomes more of a AAA league or in another league if this one fails. The AHL is more of a Eastern league than anything. We will see ALOT of transition at all levels of minor league hockey in the next 3 years, I guarantee that. I would stake ALOT of money on the fact that we will see several Midwestern teams leave their present leagues and join the IHL IF the IHL proves itself to be legitimate in the enxt 2 years. The first year is always the toughest so this year will mean EVERYTHING to the IHL as far as proving itself. If it does, the IHL will expand to 10-14 teams within 3 years. I am very confident of that….. Then we will all see the hockey and rivalries that we have begged to see for years.
August 13, 2007 at 3:30 pm
I hope everyone’s predictions about playing in a higher league become true. I am still a little optimistic though. Why wasn’t a re-alignment done when the original IHL folded. I know the different IHL teams spread throughout the different leauges, but I think then would have been a good time to look at reorganiztion of the different leauges. If a new “re-alignment” is whats best for different the leagues, teams, and owners, then I hope the powers that be make it really happen. It just seems that what I consider common sense or good business sense never happens in hockey. I have been happy with hockey in Fort Wayne even when they moved to the UHL. Having lower level hockey is better than no hockey at all.
August 13, 2007 at 5:38 pm
Thanks Chuckitt for the name. Tony E you said it all just perfect so these other people will have to understand that the landscape of minor league hockey is changing for sure!! Any time there is change you have growing pains….so lets all just be patient and live with it for a short period of time. The Frankes know what they are doing and i trust them one heck of a lot more than some of those other Bozo types owners that we have seen in the UHL. We all have opinions and that is mine. If you disagree that is your right……..but believe me things will be just fine soon. Take care all and lets go Komets whoever you are!!!!
August 13, 2007 at 5:47 pm
we need an affiliate. i think the Komets should leave one defense spot and one forward spot open to a affiliate team. I think we should get a higher affiliate like AHL/NHL or even CHL/ECHL (even though were consider the same rank) and/or get one from a junior team (Indiana Ice) or a MAHL or some league that has players out of college/juniors. I would Prefer getting a affiliate with a MAHL league so that we won’t lose are players and leave a few spots for thiers, and it would give these young guys a chance at making it. what does everyone think. it was just something that popped in my head because i was thinking of Flint getting one with the RedWings and Thrashers.
August 13, 2007 at 8:06 pm
Fort Wayne signed Degagne and Reiter
August 13, 2007 at 8:48 pm
Should we be excited? I am not sure what to think if this is true. Reiter was good with Missouri, but was he as good as French Fry? I am sure I have seen Degagne, but I have to admit I don’t really remember him.
August 13, 2007 at 8:50 pm
I guess this makes 2 capable goalies. I would have liked to seen McWhinney back because I think he had lots of promise in him, he just needed a legitimate shot in goal, not as a guy that plays maybe once every month or so like French Toast would allow him to do.
August 13, 2007 at 10:08 pm
Where did you find the signing at, Signing?
August 13, 2007 at 10:40 pm
I would say right now the Flint Generals are signing a team the whole league should be worried about ecspecailly the K’s. They are in talks with Big Mac to add to an already tough Blue-Line and they have signed some scoring punch. Again I ask where is all the toughness the K’s have always talked about signing but never do? We supposely have money to spend?
August 13, 2007 at 11:09 pm
We need Marchant, Johnson, Henley, Manson, Mcwhinney, Reiter, and Degagne. Those what the Komets are in talks with, and they need to sign them all. Three good goalies, two tough enforcers, Johnson for a pest, and Marchant for scoring. Plus Johnson can score too.
August 14, 2007 at 1:09 am
At this level and with a salary cap you really can’t carry three goalies.
August 14, 2007 at 6:37 am
David, Flint will only lead the league in PM. They will have a revolving door to the penelty box. I am going to make the trip up to Flint sometime this year, because Flint is the new Elmira of the league. Excitement in every game. I know alot of you people aren’t going to like me saying this, but we have to sign and ENFORCER SOON!!!!! Henley isn’t going to be back til after Xmas, and that is the earliest. We need to get a guy in the lockerroom, that can mix it up. @ this point, I don’t care if he can’t tie his skates, as long as he can protect Chaulk and others, thats all that matters. Flint has a bunch of head hunters (goons). We need someone to match that or their physical play will take us right out of every game we play with them. IE = Rockford
August 14, 2007 at 7:47 am
I disagree with great respect. Euro hockey is the answer. The Komets will always be on the power play against them! At least the 5 guys that are still healthy by the end of the game will be on it alot.
August 14, 2007 at 8:08 am
Well I appreciate the respect. Thing is you said it yourself. The 5 guys that are healthy. Teams will see we don’t have a physical presence. They will take advantage of that.
August 14, 2007 at 8:28 am
Part of it will depend on how refs call a game as well.
August 14, 2007 at 10:21 am
Rockford did that to us in the playoffs.
August 14, 2007 at 11:47 am
Yes Flint may lead the league in Majors but they will also have a team who can score. The ownership there will put a team that can play it both ways and provide entertainment. We on the other have yet to sign anything that resemebles what Flint has put together thus far. Yes I am sure the Frankes will make announcement this week about signings but they have been saying that for like a month now
August 14, 2007 at 12:23 pm
The more talent and entertainment the other teams put into themselves, the more tolerable this six team league experience will be. It is good for everyone on many levels.
Besides, I don’t think the Komet management had their hands this venture with the idea of finishing last.
August 14, 2007 at 12:32 pm
….“People are going to have to make up their minds,” Komets General Manager David Franke said. “There are a lot of options out there for the players, so it’s a little slower getting them to make commitments.”….
Tony E,
What I’m trying to do now is hold people accountable for what they have said about the new league and minor league hockey as a whole. Two months ago people were saying (including David Franke) that there would be “fewer” options available for players in minor league THIS year, and we would be able to sign better players because of it. Fewer options meaing less teams for players to play for. Did this really happen? Apparently not, because we are having trouble signing players. NOW David Franke is reversing himself, and saying that it is a little “slower” to get commitments from players this year. Apparently thats the Spin on things because players are not signing in Fort Wayne. He’s talking out of both sides of his mouth again. Don’t say one thing and then come back a few months later and claim something different. I want people who will be credible with the fans of FW. Not politicians who will say anything to get a buck or two.
August 14, 2007 at 12:57 pm
he was saying that because he thought thats what it would be. I thought that too. And its not. Thats not Franke talking out the side of his mouth.
August 14, 2007 at 2:13 pm
Tom, I understand what you are saying but things have changed in the last few months. Teams overseas have stepped up efforts to lure players to their leagues. So now the Komets (and every other independent team) not only have to compete with teams in North America but also with teams in Europe that can in many cases pay their players more money and in many cases they play a shorter season. David Franke had no way of knowing that was going to happen a few months ago. Things are changing and with that change may come a reversal in thought and philosophy. I don’t think there was any attempt to deceive fans with his earlier comments. I want what most of you want, a skilled , tough yet disciplined team made up of a bunch of good character guys. More often than not that is what I have seen on the ice from the Komets. I think Komets management has earned the right to be given the benefit of the doubt based on the last 15+ years of track record.
August 14, 2007 at 3:24 pm
Tony E.,
I just can’t believe that David Franke had “no way of knowing” what what was going to happen a few months ago. He knew that if we went this route (IHL) this fallout might happen. (not being able to get better players) The better ones indeed are going overseas and to the ECHL.
You claim to know what the future holds for minor league hockey (by the end of the decade), but you couldn’t accurately get it right two months down the road. How are you going to predict 3 years down the road then?
August 14, 2007 at 3:32 pm
There are things that are unexpected and I don’t think a person is any less credible for not seeing those things. If someone could see the unexpected then those things would not be unexpected.
August 14, 2007 at 3:35 pm
Tom again you complain before seeing the product. If 2-3 mo into the season it is level “A” hockey then I will be right here with you. I for one beleive in the K’s management and what they are doing.
August 14, 2007 at 3:51 pm
What most likely is happening is the players that have a future in regards to moving up in terms of the NHL ladder are simply waiting to see where they can go. They are all looking at the NHL, then the AHL, then the ECHL. I would have to think that the CHL would appeal to them being that there are alot of questions about this new league. Once all of these other options are exhausted and fall through, then what’s left, or who got left out will come to the IHL. I would also think Europe is more enticing right now as well.
August 14, 2007 at 3:51 pm
Tom I never made any claims two months ago about how hard/easy it will be to get players. In fact two to three months ago I said the same thing as I am now regarding why the AHL would have been a bad move for the Komets. I have never once said anything about how easy it will be for the Komets or any team to sign players, just that once opening night rolls around, the Komets will have the required number of players to put a team on the ice so I am going to sit back and relax this summer (just as I do every summer) and wait for it to happen and trust that the Komets will have a competitive team because 9 years out of 10 that is exactly what happens. I do not get caught up in getting upset if a player is not brought back or another player I might like to see is not signed. Whoever is here when the season starts is here. If they play well enough they stay and if not they are gone and replaced with someone else. I do not get attached to players.
The overseas recruitment has hit all the U.S. leagues this summer right up to the NHL with a few end of the bench guys getting lured to Europe and other areas. While David Franke might have noticed it happening he had no way of knowing how it would change things until the process of recruiting players got going. Is it possible he misjudged the situation? Maybe. I will listen to that argument. But I will not believe that he intentionally tried to deceive the public two months ago. There would be no purpose in doing so. Things change, especially this summer. I think David Franke has earned the right to change his mind or even to acknowledge that he misjudged the situation without fans thinking he suddenly does not know how to do his job. Gheesh I would take him in Toronto any day over John Ferguson Jr and most of the GM’s the Leafs have had the last 40 years who sat by and watched mediocrity fester without trying to change. Komets management knows what they are doing and I would say that even after a last place season because their track record says so.
My predictions for the future of hockey are based on both what folks are suggesting will happen with the Canadian dollar by the end of this decade as well as what I see already starting to happen. Hockey will go the way of baseball by the end of the decade in that there will be several AAA , AA , A leagues geographically centralized. There will be no more flights from Wheeling to Boise because it makes no economic sense and because fans in those two cities have no “feel” for each other where a long term rivalry can develop. What makes the Komets/Kwings rivalry so good? Not only the talent on the ice but that fans can easily travel to away games and the fans have a feel for the other cities. I think in hockey more than any other sport there is a need for that type of sustainable rivalry to be in place. The strong CDN dollar (some say will be worth more than the US $ by the end of the decade) will allow for AAA hockey to return to many of the cities in eastern Canada that lost their teams in the 1990’s when the CDN dollar became weak. That will allow for the AHL to return to what it used to be and for the IHL (or some league) to become the midwest AAA league. The western most CHL and ECHL teams could very well form a AAA western league.
August 14, 2007 at 3:54 pm
I would also like to say I don’t think there is much of a difference between “A” and “AA” hockey as it relates to the product I have watched the last few years in the UHL. I think fans will notice very little change. If this league becomes younger as I think it will then you may see more mistakes but they will be mistakes of youth not mistakes due to lack of hustle.
August 14, 2007 at 4:15 pm
people need to quit downing the Komets and the organization. And its sad if you are a Komet fan and you are saying things like that. Komets have had the best Organization for a long time and thats why they have been around for such a long time. We have good owners that know what they are doing and it has showed over the years.
August 14, 2007 at 4:54 pm
People need to get a look at this. It’s about Mike Sgori one of our dispersal draft picks.
http://www.pressconnects.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070812/SPORTS/708120330
August 14, 2007 at 5:05 pm
yea i saw that article. I don’t think we will get him. He is a more higher level player and it doesnt sound komets want him too bad.
August 14, 2007 at 6:04 pm
Unless he knocks the guy out in the first round then I’d say skies the limit.
August 14, 2007 at 6:17 pm
It still gets me that people were preaching that “you just wait” for teams to fold and and better players will be available for the Komets just two months ago. This obviously did not happen. Blake and many others were throwing out there that there would be some mass exodus of minor league hockey teams. I think the numbers people were throwing out there were any where from 9-11 to even more teams folding. I wonder how many teams really folded? I know for sure that the UHL had teams that moved up a level– Elmira, QC and Rockford, while the Komets essentially moved down a level.
Minor league hockey will always be a year to year thing. Some teams will fold while some new teams will come in to replace them. As far as the future, we really don’t know what is going to happen with minor league hockey. I just know what is happening NOW. The AHL is at the top of minor league hockey with the ECHL as it’s feeder system. The IHL is not getting the good players NOW that the ECHL is getting this summer. It’s just dissapointing to be told year after year to wait for the BIG reorganization that is going to take place, which never happens. The current minor league organization is in place that will be here for quite some time. I’m tired now and will stop typing.
August 14, 2007 at 7:14 pm
Tom, the change has already begun. Did you not notice what already happened this summer?
Would you like to place a friendly bet as to whether Rockford or Quad Cities actually turn a profit this year?
August 14, 2007 at 7:16 pm
As far as minor league hockey being a year to year thing with teams folding, very true.
I wonder how many teams have folded since the Frankes bought the Komets? How many summers since the Frankes bought the Komets have their been any realistic worries as to whether the Komets would be playing the next season?
August 14, 2007 at 7:36 pm
I do see what Tom is saying in many ways. So many of the Optimists on the blog were saying over and over that the IHL would be so much better off and the product would be better because of the leagues financial stability and also what Tom said: ” Players would have to find places to play due to the number of teams dwindling…..and thus the league would have no problem putting good talent on the ice.” Some teams are doing that.
Now the way it looks to the FW audience is that we are having a rough time finding players. I mean come on guys and gals, how adventurous have our signings been? We have tons of former Komet retreads and 2 non-former Komets that we drafted. The Recruiting or Lack there of to this point seems poor. I agree that I haven’t a clue what they have coming in the next several weeks as they might have guys signed that they just haven’t announced yet, but it does make you wonder a little.
The question really is….What is the problem so far with the recruiting process of new talent and players that will compete, entertain, and win games for the FW Komets?
Saying all that…I am happy to see Chaulk, Guy, Kukulka, and Hukalo back in Orange and Black.
August 14, 2007 at 7:42 pm
Tony the fact is that it happens every year teams fold while others start up. Look at the CHL they have I believe 2 new teams schedule to take the ice in 08-09. How many minor league teams actually turn a profit? Do the K’s turn a profit? Who knows, but everyone thought that there was going to be this big turn over in minor league hockey this year and that would yield better players for the K’s to sign and the rest of the IHL. Well, most have signed with the ECHL or CHL and the ones who didn’t went overseas for the $$$$. If Rockford and QC do not do well at the AHL so what at least they gave it a try, but I am sure the IHL will be here with open arms to invite them back. Just like the IHL would have been here or another minor league establishment to welcome back the K’s had they choose to go to the ECHL or AHL ranks.
August 14, 2007 at 7:43 pm
yes but they might have contacted alot of people we don’t know about and we might be suprised who we will get. its not over yet. we got alot of time till the season starts. You think the Frankes wouldn’t get us some good players? With Sims and Chaulks help we will get GOOD players. They havent turned us down yet.
August 14, 2007 at 7:53 pm
I wouldn’t want to ever be “turned down” by Sims or Chaulks.
Do I smell Komet Warrior somewhere close to the blog? MAN
kidding.
August 14, 2007 at 7:56 pm
David, the other possibility is that Rockford and Quad Cities lose so much money that there will be no owners left to bring them back to the IHL and the team ends up folding. If you were a fan of that team is that a risk you would be willing to take? If you were an owner of that team would you be willing to risk losing everything you have worked years for jumping into something you know is going to change radically in the next few years? The only reason Quad Cities has a prayer of surviving is because Calgary is going to offset financial losses. I am not sure if Rockford has a similar deal.
I have no problem with the Komets becoming a AAA team but I am glad they are not doing it now.
The players jumping to Europe is out of the Komets control. You can’t expect players to sign in Fort Wayne when they can make a larger salary and play fewer games overseas. That is what happens when you enforce a hard cap.
As far as players go, assuming Chaulk is healthy, would you not say that the Komets already have one of the top centers and top defencemen in the league?
There ARE a ton of goaltenders floating around so there is no rush whatsoever to sign one.
August 14, 2007 at 8:14 pm
They have signed one maybe 2 according to a very good local source that has a blog that is similar to this one.
August 14, 2007 at 8:39 pm
Where is Super Fan anyways? We need the info…MAN!
August 14, 2007 at 8:41 pm
Anyone seen any future Komets at any local diners? I wonder if our little friends brother has called him lately? I miss KW so much. He is so misunderstood. OHIC MAN!
August 14, 2007 at 9:01 pm
He has not shown himself since I pointed out how he seemed to find a new grasp of the English language. Last I heard he was taking remedial cyberslang 103 at IPFW.
August 14, 2007 at 9:18 pm
He must be taking the same classes that Rob Guinn took at IPFW…..
Had to go there….sorry.
August 14, 2007 at 10:43 pm
Tony, I hope that my comment did not come across as confrontational that was not my intent with you. If it did sorry, I agree with how you spin it as how others may spin it.
August 14, 2007 at 11:16 pm
David I did not think you were being confrontational at all. I understand you are wanting the best possible hockey in Fort Wayne and I also understand why you want the Komets to try to move up to the AHL. I am just concerned that unless the Komets get a deal like Calgary gave Quad Cities, what can happen is the owners would end up in such debt that they would be forced to sell. Of course with a ton of debt very few buyers would be interested and that is when teams vanish. In my opinion, the risk is far larger than the reward right now.
August 14, 2007 at 11:17 pm
Hit, Hit, Hit…. LOL. I guess we can let that one slide
August 15, 2007 at 8:52 am
Intotheboards says that Youngstown is hosting an exhibition game against ECHL Cincinnati. That’s something that might help the product for IHL. How about Muskegon vs. Grand Rapids. Kalamazoo vs. Milwaukee. Chicago vs. Fort Wayne. These are the matchups (that we should be seeing in the reg. season if we were in the right league) that people want to see. Remember when the Padres came to town to play the Wizards. Look how many came to that game. They packed the place out. Expect the same if the “I” came up with similar matchups for preseason…
August 15, 2007 at 9:16 am
Problem is J-Rid, What your talking about is sending “AAA” hockey up against “AA” hockey. The exhibition is essentialy against two “AA” teams just different leagues. ECHL and CHL. As a matter of fact the Phoenix team in the ECHL will play a Airizona team fro the CHL as well. It’s a good thought though.
August 15, 2007 at 10:13 pm
The Twins played against the Wiz Kids (Bigs versus “A”
as did the Fathers playing against the Wiz Bangs. A little different than like when the ICE of the CHL played against the Komets in the UHL a few years back in preseason. As I recall at that point, the difference in play between the C and the U definitely favored the UHL.